One brief decider using paper, scissors, rock, then twin brother Shingi Murare kicks off a ‘Game of Skate’ match versus his brother Muche, the pair known as Too’OnPoint meet me at their local park in Flatbush, Barry Curtis Park.
ALEYNA: So you guys grew up around here? I’m filming you.
SHINGI: Oh shit, yeah we did, we grew up like…. we’d skate 20 minutes down the road before they built this, everyday after school. Weekends I’d be here first thing in the morning. It’s still probably one of the best skate parks in Auckland, but we didn’t have that much back then…Til we begged the council.
ALEYNA: Who’s we?
SHINGI: Like a lot of us, like the local skate shop as well
ALEYNA: Which is?
SHINGI: Boardertown, my brother works there. So even though I got into music and shit, skating’s still …before I wanted to be a musician I wanted to be a proskateboarder. I was really passionate about it, now it’s just fun like what you do for exercise and to have fun, before, I took it too seriously.
MUCHE: And then it’s not fun.
ALEYNA: When did you come across the show Epicl’y Latered and what did you like about it?
SHINGI: It would’ve been almost 10 years ago now we would’ve still been in intermediate school just learning how to skate then the show Epicl’y Latered was something new and refreshing. You got a peek into their personal lives as well as an in depth interview on skate culture. It put a personal attachment to my favourite skateboarders which intern motivates you to scare you even harder it’s almost like a musician watching their favourite musicians biography you know.
ALEYNA: So where are you guys from?
MUCHE: Harare, Zimbabwe
ALEYNA: And how old were you when you came here?
MUCHE: Bout 2002, I was seven.
ALEYNA: So you went to school out here?
MUCHE: Yeah, Elm Park Primary.
ALEYNA: Wait where are we?
SHINGI: We’re in Flatbush but we grew up round the east like Pakuranga
ALEYNA: So first memories of skating, how did it start?
MUCHE: Just seeing my mates back in intermediate and my friends would skate and I’d just watch clips of them doing like kick flips and shit skating and be like bro how do you do that.
SHINGI: I got me a little $10 skateboard from the Warehouse and shit, it could barely ride.
ALEYNA: So you loved it that much that just put up with that? What was the first board you bought?
SHINGI: Yeah for a little bit and then I got like a proper skate board, I think my first one was a Flip, Geoff Rowley.
MUCHE: I think the first board I bought was a Zero cause I loved Chris Cole.
SHINGI: I was real poor and shit so I couldn’t afford to buy a board and shit for over $100, so I’d always cop second hand skateboards…once in a blue moon I’d buy a board.
ALEYNA: So is this your stomping ground?
SHINGI: Oi legit, we were probably the reason why they built this park…
ALEYNA: What’s that story?
MUCHE: Um so if you go back maybe a kilometre that way we used to be fucking little shits always just going there skating up, the shop owners would complain and shit , we’d skate all the local schools, they’d always complain there was like 20 of us and we’d always just go and skate together so they got pretty pissed off about that after a while.
SHINGI: We even did a petition and they put like 700k into it or something.
MUCHE: There was like, One News or something came out here when it was still getting built and they got us all to come through and ask, ‘Oh what do you guys think about this park?’ But bro we needed this to be honest like where else were we gonna skate? You’re [the council] not providing facilities for the youth to go kick it at type thing.
SHINGI: And the public transport system is so trash.
MUCHE: It’s hard to get to other parks.
SHINGI: To get to skatepark would take you half a day.
MUCHE: But now it’s like legit, this place is probably a home for a lot of people who have grown up around here, it’s needed.
ALEYNA: So skating, as brothers that’s something that you’ve always done together?
MUCHE: Yeah and my other brother, he’s better than us, he’s fuckin good (laughs).
SHINGI: Yeah he’s fucking good aye, so good.
ALEYNA: What is it you love about skating, is it like something you can do as a family, as brothers like isn’t some of this shit scary?
SHINGI: It is but it’s fun like ..the risk.
MUCHE: The way I see it it’s like confidence building , if I was gonna go do that 10 right, like that I’ve never done in my life but if I was going to go do it I would probably run up like five times and then come to a point where you’re like I’m actually going to do it this time and that’s when the adrenaline kicks in before you do it and then once you do it, it’s like ‘Oh my god it wasn’t that hard’ and then you go try it again you know but like getting over that mental barrier of it’s ‘just a 10 stair’ or ‘it’s just an olly’ type thing gets me, I dunno. Sometime you could be out there trying a trick for a whole fucking day and you’re not going to get it, but you’re still, every time you fall down and fuck yourself up you’re going to get back up and try again you know.
SHINGI: Cause you want it that bad…
MUCHE: And then you get it one time and then that one time made up for the whole day’s worth of work you know so yeah it’s a good feeling,
ALEYNA: So do you guys reckon that define loving something or just your drive and character?
SHINGI: Definitely defines loving something.
MUCHE: Loving something because fuck, you got to put up with the bad times you know what I mean just for those small moments of hope but it’s worth it in the end.
SHINGI: It’s the feeling of achievement that’s so satisfying even if you do something one day you’ll be like fuck ok, if I can do that then the possibilities are just endless
MUCHE: It just makes you like, I’m going to take it to the next level.
ALEYNA: Do you help each other train or learn?
MUCHE: Game of Skate, we should play a gam of skate now…
SHINGI: It’s like what’s that game on the basketball court…Donkey.